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  1. Nick
    October 11, 2012 @ 9:55 pm

    Hey Troy, I always thought the handicap system was a lot more complicated, involving course ratings and such. I’d be interested to see stats of where most golf handicaps fall in the bell curve.


    • Troy Vayanos
      October 12, 2012 @ 11:13 am

      Hey Nick,

      It does involve course ratings but ultimately it’s how many shots over par is the truest indicator. The average handicap for men is difficult to assess. Statistics show most amateur golfers don’t break hundred so judging by that the average is around 27 to 28. Other statistics show it’s more in the 18 – 22 range which from my experience on the golf course would be a lot more accurate.


      • David Barnes
        April 25, 2013 @ 10:12 pm

        well my handicap is two and I can’t seem to lower it, 1.5 is my lowest. every aspect of my game seems strong and lately of my last ten games I have gone under par 6 times in practice but in competition my best is 68. what can I do to get my handicap down when standard scratch is 68


        • Troy Vayanos
          April 26, 2013 @ 7:47 am

          Sounds like your game is going really well David.

          I would probably work on making your practice games closer to the real competition ones. In other words add some pressure to your shots and make it as realistic as possible. Let me know how that goes.



  2. Lily
    August 7, 2016 @ 7:10 pm

    Hi, I’m having trouble calculating the ESC score for a course when I don’t yet have an established handicap (can’t post my score through NCGA website without the ESC, can’t figure out the ESC without knowing my handicap)… I’ve been getting in 9-hole rounds from the ladies red tees. The last course I played was Lincoln Park GC in San Francisco (9 holes, reds). How would I figure out the ESC in this case in order to post my score and establish my handicap? Thanks!


    • Troy Vayanos
      August 9, 2016 @ 5:14 pm

      Hi Lily,

      Sorry for the delay, but I’ve been trying to find the right information for you to help you out. We don’t really use the ESC here in Australia but I managed to find some great information here that should help you out. Try this link and scroll down to the first answer it should help.

      With your handicap the problem is you’re not completing full 18 hole rounds which makes it tricky to establish a handicap. You’ll need to play at least 10 9-hole rounds in your case to bring it up to 5 full rounds to establish a handicap. Add up each 18 hole total and type it into this calculator at this site The USGA rating should be on the cards and the slope should be available from the golf course you play. For example for an average course the slope will be 113, for a difficult course with the tees pushed back and longer to play it might be 120. Once you have this information you’ll be able to work out your handicap.

      Hope this helps and by all means email back if you have any further questions.

      Cheers and thanks for visiting my site.

      Much appreciated.


      • Lily
        August 9, 2016 @ 5:26 pm

        Troy, thank you! That really is a perfect resource link on top of your feedback, too. I didn’t realize you were in Australia. The World Wide Web is fantastic – appreciate your site. I guess I’m going to start having to get in all 18! Cheers.


        • Troy Vayanos
          August 9, 2016 @ 6:17 pm

          Your most welcome Lily, please let me know if you have any further questions.

          I’m here to help.



  3. Dave
    August 11, 2016 @ 7:47 pm

    Hey Troy

    I am going on a work conference and was asked what my handicap is for the golf day. What can i tell them as I dont golf often and when i do, I dont usually keep score. Lately I keep track of my par holes. (3-4 average)
    I have never been that serious of a golfer for this to matter but I guess it does now.

    Thanks in advance.


    • Troy Vayanos
      August 12, 2016 @ 1:12 am

      Hey Dave,

      Normally what they do if they’ll give you the highest handicap they can. Usually it’s around 18 depending on what country you’re in. If you’re making 3-4 pars a round then I’m guessing the other 14 holes are either bogey or double-bogey. I’d say you’re probably shooting around 18 over par or about 90 on a par-72 golf course.

      I think 18 is probably a good start.

      Hope you play well.




  4. Matt
    June 26, 2017 @ 12:49 am

    Higher slope strongly affects the handicap of bogey golfers. I recently shot a 99 on a course with a slope of 144 (74 course rating). Based on course rating alone, I was 25 over. But handicap also takes into account the slope. With slope, my handicap for that course was more like +16. The math to determine “bogey golf” is something like slope/5.38 + course rating. I think a +18 handicap for that course came out to just over 100. Most of the courses I play on have a much higher slope than average. I thought my handicap was much higher than what it really is! Nice surpriseMtt


  5. Marcus Luppino
    September 7, 2017 @ 2:02 am

    If I play on a 70.2 rates course and typically shoot between 85-90 what would my handicap be?


    • Troy Vayanos
      September 7, 2017 @ 4:28 am

      Hi Marcus,

      It would depend on what your golf courses slope rating is. I’m going to assume it’s a standard playing difficulty of 113. This would give you a golf handicap of 14.2.

      You can work this out here on my website and play around with the different slope ratings and scores.



  6. Marcus Luppino
    September 7, 2017 @ 4:32 am

    the slope is 120
    here is the website


    • Troy Vayanos
      September 7, 2017 @ 4:39 am

      Ok thanks. This would then make your handicap about 15 based on an average score around 87.



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